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the inspector — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:00:10 -0000

She may not have protested about being called "Asian", but maybe that's because there isn't the American legacy of the One Drop Rule being thrust upon her, passed down from whites and then adopted by blacks.

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the inspector — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:42:18 -0000

Where you're right is that some biracial people - just like some blacks, whites and those of any other group - will have a racist or superior attitude. But what's also true is that phenotype often determines how someone biracial (or white or black ... ) is treated. I'm not passed up by cabs, etc. because I look more white. So to imagine that all biracials should accept the (genetically inaccurate) label of just "black" is quite problematic.

As for jealousy and whites: yes, whites do get threatened and jealous of many of us. I say that from experience. "Biracial" is the new ideal. Of course, again, it depends on how the biracial person looks. American and UK modeling and acting agencies are presently looking for biracial models of all backgrounds, pushing aside the previous ideal of someone mono-racially white and blond/blue-eyed. The world is changing, but true positive change would mean honoring EVERY groups' beauty (inside and out).

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the inspector — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:30:27 -0000

I wouldn't call biracial peoples' healthy insistence that they be considered who they are (biracial), a "movement" any more than I'd call Africans' desire to be seen for who they are, some kind of movement LOL

Whites originally legalized the One Drop Rule, which was awful, then it was de-legalized. But now it seems a substantial portion of the black community is still Hell bent on keeping the un-scientific rule going, even though the white community has eased up considerably (I say this from personal experience and ongoing observation).

If someone wishes to call a person who has a black parent and a white parent just black, they can do that, but it doesn't erase the fact that that biracial person is still biracial, and often shares an experience with white people (including relatives) that makes their experience markedly different than (most) mono-racially black people.

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Siditty — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:13:00 -0000

Kat,

You ain't never lied. The boy was actually calling black people n*gger, and said he is a white person trapped in a mixed person's body.

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Kat — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:30:00 -0000

It's "mixed" people like this guy on youtube that give other mixed people a bad image.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Siditty — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:13:00 -0000

Kat,

You ain't never lied. The boy was actually calling black people n*gger, and said he is a white person trapped in a mixed person's body.

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Kat — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:30:00 -0000

It's "mixed" people like this guy on youtube that give other mixed people a bad image.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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simone — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:51:00 -0000

I certainly do believe it Simone. Talk will not change deep seated beliefs, nor will it change history. However, I believe we face so many problems, perhaps race will be overshadowed for awhile.
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@C1

I hope you are right about that. Maybe the problems of the world can some way overshadow the ridiculousness of racism.

Since you feel this way C1, do you think this influences who you will end up marrying race wise? Do you think it would be easier to just have a family with someone of the same race than to marry someone different? I think for some people Interracial marriages could be a headache, much less raising biracial children. For me, I think love and understanding will get you through most things, especially if the union is very strong between a couple. I know that sounds all kumbaya, but I think it helps.

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SuperJV — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:36:00 -0000

well this is a very good post and I would have to say that I agree with it. I think too that the point you make, that negative and positive behavior, good and evil exists in humanity across the board is key. I think Obama's quote sums it up too, that it's about perception. I think at the same time, it's not like he denies his heritage or upbringing, so no one should be upset with that quote... And as you say, really, there is very little "racial purity" out there. And what an awful phase, with all it's Nazi implications.

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SuperJV — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:36:00 -0000

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Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:09:00 -0000

hi siditty

congrats on your preganacy love :)

anyways i thought i'd post this extract from obama's autobiography: dreams of my father. It shows you really where obama's heads at on this matter.

Read the last paragraph in particular! Theres also another section of the book where he talks about this, this one paragraph which bascially sums up everything you said siditty (will post it up when i find it)

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pg 99-dreams from my father

"I didn’t have the luxury, I suppose, the certainty of the tribe. Grow up in Compton and survival becomes a revolutionary act...I had nothing to escape from except my own inner doubt. I was more like the black students who had grown up in the suburbs...You could spot them right away by the way they talked, the people they sat with in the cafeteria. When pressed, they would sputter and explain that they refused to be categorized. They weren’t defined by the color of their skin, they would tell you. They were individuals.

That’s how Joyce liked to talk. She was a good-looking woman, Joyce was, with her green eyes and honey skin and pouty lips...all the brothers were after her. One day I asked her if she was going to the Black Students’ Association meeting. She looked at me funny and then started shaking her head like a baby who doesn’t want what it sees on the spoon.

“I’m not black,” Joyce said. “I’m multiracial.” Then she started telling me about her father, who happened to be Italian and was the sweetest man in the world; and her mother, who happened to be part African and part French and part Native American and part something else. “Why should I have to choose between them?” she asked me. Her voice cracked, and I thought she was going to cry. “It’s not white people who are making me choose. Maybe it used to be that way, but now they’re willing to treat me like a person. No–it’s black people who always have to make everything racial. They’re the ones making me choose. They’re the ones who are telling me that I can’t be who I am...”

They, they, they. That’s the problem with people like Joyce. They talked about the richness of their multicultural heritage and it sounded real good, until you noticed that they avoided black people. It wasn’t a matter of conscious choice, necessarily, just a matter of gravitational pull, the way integration always worked, a one-way street."

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Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:09:00 -0000

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Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:13:00 -0000

You write about white people claiming Barack's white heritage, but as I remember, that was brought to the forefront not by white people trying to embrace him but by some black leaders trying to reject him as "not black enough"

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Anonymous — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:13:00 -0000

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classical one — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:22:00 -0000

C-1 do you really feel like talking about race will do nothing to help race relations? Part of me agrees with you and part of me thinks if we keep talking about it, eventually it will help. Who knows I remain optimistic for the sake of my niece and nephew. I have to believe it gets better.

I certainly do believe it Simone. Talk will not change deep seated beliefs, nor will it change history. However, I believe we face so many problems, perhaps race will be overshadowed for awhile.

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classical one — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:22:00 -0000

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simone — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:25:00 -0000

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Grata — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:08:00 -0000

Here is a cnn video of mixed race people in he Uk and how they identify.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/...

The guy in that video is so full of trophism, its annoying.

Continuing the discussion. I think what the biracial movement fails to see is that in less than 100 years majority of people will be multi racial. Therefore the position they seek will be quite irrelevant soon.

I remembered another biracial friend of mine. She was half Belgian and half African. She came for the first time to Africa and I was the first friend she made. The culture in which we lived was very open and welcoming. The guys obviously were falling all over themselves for her "exotic" looks. I knew these guys and how they think and I tried to protect her. Soon she started to believe she was better than the rest of us. And this is where Biracials make the mistake, especially those who come to Africa. Africans are very friendly and may treat you like you are bigger than you are. The worst you can do is to start believing it and treating them as less than you. She fell into that trap and I was no longer in her league of friends. However before that she had managed to sneek behind my back and date a guy that had been interested in me. I knew I wasn't going any where with him because he was the son of an infamous politician and I wanted nothing to do with that insane crowd. She thought she was more woman than me and when I left the country briefly, she started an affair with him. He treated her so badly, by the time he was done with her, her hair was literally falling out of her head. I met her after and she was so apologetic but in so much pain it was incredible, she looked anorexic. She eventually recovered and married a Swiss expart. I guess she realized that Africans did have some sense self respect. She moved to New york I believe. But from what I heard, she was unhappily married to the Swiss guy and was still mourning the African guy that did her wrong.

Moral of the story is that there is a real danger for Biracials to think they are more special than blacks. You simply can not have it both ways. If you want to hang onto your half white privilage in this system, remember that it is at the expense of blacks. And no one wants to be around someone that is part of the reason they are oppressed.
So that resentment is not simple jealpousy for your supposedly good hair and light skin (Believe it or not many of us wouldn't trade our skin tones and hair for anything though we still appreciate yours).
Its because you are a potential oppressor yourself. And pushing for biraciality signals that you are willing to perpetuate the same system that oppressed people like you but now are trying to beat it by claiming biraciality.
On the other hand I have no problem with a biracial person that hangs more to their white identity than the black one like Harold Ford. They are consistent. There is no clear biracial culture in the Western world, it just the physican nature. So you can't be black today and white tomorrow, that becomes racial prosititution and neither side likes that.

To completely embrace your biraciality, you have to break with blacks who you have historically identified as. The whites won't accept you. So if one needs to really identify as biracial, they have to form their own society where they define their rules with the knowledge of both cultures but running back and forth to either cultures just won't fly least of all with blacks.

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classical one — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:24:00 -0000

How is East and West culture so different?

Well, the west is Europe/United States and the east can refer to many different places; however, the east usually means Asia in the United States. This is a complicate discussion and not so much about east and west. Here's the culture definition I'm working from: it referred to distinct ways that people living in different parts of the world classified and represented their experiences, and acted creatively.

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Grata — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:08:00 -0000

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classical one — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:24:00 -0000